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		<title>Comment on Review: Ancient-Future Worship by Robert E. Webber by Craig Higgins</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/07/16/ancient-future-worship-by-robert-e-webber/#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Will.  I just got this--and Who Gets the Narrate the World?--the two last volumes from this great and godly man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Will.  I just got this&#8211;and Who Gets the Narrate the World?&#8211;the two last volumes from this great and godly man.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Anglican Journey (Part 1) by Will Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/07/20/my-anglican-journey-part-1/#comment-3107</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rachel. I am learning a ton about this journey just by writing about it. So I'm looking forward to writing more for you. As far as GAFCON goes I think it's a mixed bag. While the church desperately needs clarification ok the boundaries of orthodoxy, I'm not sure a confession of faith and an angry bunch holding the hermeneutical keys to that confession is the answer. Right now I simply am not sure what to make of it. You might find some of Bp. N. T. Wright's reflections on GAFCON interesting on this count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rachel. I am learning a ton about this journey just by writing about it. So I&#8217;m looking forward to writing more for you. As far as GAFCON goes I think it&#8217;s a mixed bag. While the church desperately needs clarification ok the boundaries of orthodoxy, I&#8217;m not sure a confession of faith and an angry bunch holding the hermeneutical keys to that confession is the answer. Right now I simply am not sure what to make of it. You might find some of Bp. N. T. Wright&#8217;s reflections on GAFCON interesting on this count.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Anglican Journey (Part 1) by Rachel V.</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/07/20/my-anglican-journey-part-1/#comment-3105</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Will, I'll look forward to reading this.  Dr. L. at church this morning told us about GAF-Con; I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on that, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Will, I&#8217;ll look forward to reading this.  Dr. L. at church this morning told us about GAF-Con; I&#8217;d be interested to hear your thoughts on that, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Ancient-Future Worship by Robert E. Webber by Will Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/07/16/ancient-future-worship-by-robert-e-webber/#comment-3072</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really glad to do so Jay. Thanks for taking the time to read the review and post a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really glad to do so Jay. Thanks for taking the time to read the review and post a comment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Ancient-Future Worship by Robert E. Webber by M. Jay Bennett</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/07/16/ancient-future-worship-by-robert-e-webber/#comment-3071</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Jay Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Will! I've been wanting to read this book since it was published. You've peaked my interest. Hope to get it soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Will! I&#8217;ve been wanting to read this book since it was published. You&#8217;ve peaked my interest. Hope to get it soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Drugstore.com &#038; ReservationRewards.com Scam by Will Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/06/29/the-drugstorecom-reservationrewardscom-scam/#comment-3062</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received an email on July 14 from Mary O'Reilly with Webloyalty Consumer Affairs at Reservation Rewards. She presented their case with documentation. I am looking into their case and to give the benefit of the doubt, while I am reviewing Mary's case, I have suspended the above post excepting the links to the other accounts of the alleged bad experiences people have had with Reservation Rewards. 

I will post my findings and argument for or against Reservation Rewards here in the comments section of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received an email on July 14 from Mary O&#8217;Reilly with Webloyalty Consumer Affairs at Reservation Rewards. She presented their case with documentation. I am looking into their case and to give the benefit of the doubt, while I am reviewing Mary&#8217;s case, I have suspended the above post excepting the links to the other accounts of the alleged bad experiences people have had with Reservation Rewards. </p>
<p>I will post my findings and argument for or against Reservation Rewards here in the comments section of this post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A great overview to the church calendar by Will Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/07/10/a-great-overview-to-the-church-calendar/#comment-3027</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not original with me. It comes from the St. John's website.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A great overview to the church calendar by cynthia r. nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynthia r. nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that is a cool graphic!</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Look, Same Blog by Will Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/07/08/new-look-same-blog/#comment-3019</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mrs. Nielsen. ;-)</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Look, Same Blog by cynthia r. nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynthia r. nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the new look!</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Drugstore.com &#038; ReservationRewards.com Scam by Will Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still getting a lot of hits on this post. It's very sad that so many people have been hit by this exploitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still getting a lot of hits on this post. It&#8217;s very sad that so many people have been hit by this exploitation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Drugstore.com &#038; ReservationRewards.com Scam by Will Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/06/29/the-drugstorecom-reservationrewardscom-scam/#comment-3002</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Alex. 

You, and others who have multiple months of charges, also have ten months of interest that they collected on your money and additionally that you may have paid to your credit card company. I'd like to see litigation that reimburses victims for their accrued interest on both counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Alex. </p>
<p>You, and others who have multiple months of charges, also have ten months of interest that they collected on your money and additionally that you may have paid to your credit card company. I&#8217;d like to see litigation that reimburses victims for their accrued interest on both counts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Drugstore.com &#038; ReservationRewards.com Scam by Alex Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't figure it out for 10 months or so and they still refunded all of my money.  Note that this is an essential part of their "business".  It relies on a) volume and b) not getting in trouble.  The latter means being very eager to resolve any complaints.  

Another key point is that when you call them, ask how you got signed up (which web site).  Then complain to that web site and make it clear that you will no longer be their customer and will actively tell others to avoid them.  It's important to make it clear to web sites that sign up with Reservation Rewards that they will LOSE customers.  That's the only thing that will ultimately cause them to break their affiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t figure it out for 10 months or so and they still refunded all of my money.  Note that this is an essential part of their &#8220;business&#8221;.  It relies on a) volume and b) not getting in trouble.  The latter means being very eager to resolve any complaints.  </p>
<p>Another key point is that when you call them, ask how you got signed up (which web site).  Then complain to that web site and make it clear that you will no longer be their customer and will actively tell others to avoid them.  It&#8217;s important to make it clear to web sites that sign up with Reservation Rewards that they will LOSE customers.  That&#8217;s the only thing that will ultimately cause them to break their affiliation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There&#8217;s justice and then there&#8217;s this&#8230; by Will Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://nielsensnook.com/2008/06/25/theres-justice-and-then-theres-this/#comment-2992</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane,

Thank you very much for your post. You bring a dimension of thoughtfulness to this discussion that my original post lacks. All I would say in response is to nuance or clarify my original statements in light of your contribution here.

Generally speaking, I am opposed to the death penalty as a form of punishment. I believe a Christian worldview directs one to engage in punishment more as discipline rather than punitive. As a disciplining agent, a punishment would be thoughtfully designed for rehabilitation and restoration depending on the participation and engagement of the convicted. This is how the Father deals with me, and how I believe he would have me deal with others. Death is alone the decision of the Maker as a consequence of sin and I as one, who apart from Christ would be also under the sentence of death, am in no cosmic position to condemn anyone to death. At least that's where I'm coming from presently.

So what I'm challenging is the &lt;em&gt;basis&lt;/em&gt; for the decision to overturn the death penalty for Patrick Kennedy, the step-father who raped his eight year old daughter. When Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote ”The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child,” I believe the &lt;em&gt;proportionality&lt;/em&gt; to be much different than he seems to indicate. 

Some of those I have interacted with who have been raped are angry; some are broken; some are doing rather well; some are men and some are women. I think recovery has to do with being in an ongoing environment where there is a high level of trust and stability (as you point out). The sense of injustice I have with the Supreme Court ruling is not so much that they are not killing a child incest-rapist, but that there seems to be a notion, at least in the article I cited, that the death penalty for the child incest-rapist is disproportional in that it is believed to be a disproportionally severe punishment for the crime. I would say it's disproportionally light-weight, given that the rapist is killed painlessly, while many of the victims, though not all, are killed by slow painful death over a lifetime. 

Oscar Wilde makes this point poignantly in his Ballad of Reading Gaol:

&lt;em&gt;Yet each man kills the thing he loves
  By each let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
  Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
  The brave man with a sword!

Some kill their love when they are young,
  And some when they are old;
Some strangle with the hands of Lust,
  Some with the hands of Gold:
The kindest use a knife, because
  The dead so soon grow cold.

Some love too little, some too long,
  Some sell, and others buy;
Some do the deed with many tears,
  And some without a sigh:
For each man kills the thing he loves,
  Yet each man does not die.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your post. You bring a dimension of thoughtfulness to this discussion that my original post lacks. All I would say in response is to nuance or clarify my original statements in light of your contribution here.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, I am opposed to the death penalty as a form of punishment. I believe a Christian worldview directs one to engage in punishment more as discipline rather than punitive. As a disciplining agent, a punishment would be thoughtfully designed for rehabilitation and restoration depending on the participation and engagement of the convicted. This is how the Father deals with me, and how I believe he would have me deal with others. Death is alone the decision of the Maker as a consequence of sin and I as one, who apart from Christ would be also under the sentence of death, am in no cosmic position to condemn anyone to death. At least that&#8217;s where I&#8217;m coming from presently.</p>
<p>So what I&#8217;m challenging is the <em>basis</em> for the decision to overturn the death penalty for Patrick Kennedy, the step-father who raped his eight year old daughter. When Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote ”The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child,” I believe the <em>proportionality</em> to be much different than he seems to indicate. </p>
<p>Some of those I have interacted with who have been raped are angry; some are broken; some are doing rather well; some are men and some are women. I think recovery has to do with being in an ongoing environment where there is a high level of trust and stability (as you point out). The sense of injustice I have with the Supreme Court ruling is not so much that they are not killing a child incest-rapist, but that there seems to be a notion, at least in the article I cited, that the death penalty for the child incest-rapist is disproportional in that it is believed to be a disproportionally severe punishment for the crime. I would say it&#8217;s disproportionally light-weight, given that the rapist is killed painlessly, while many of the victims, though not all, are killed by slow painful death over a lifetime. </p>
<p>Oscar Wilde makes this point poignantly in his Ballad of Reading Gaol:</p>
<p><em>Yet each man kills the thing he loves<br />
  By each let this be heard,<br />
Some do it with a bitter look,<br />
  Some with a flattering word,<br />
The coward does it with a kiss,<br />
  The brave man with a sword!</p>
<p>Some kill their love when they are young,<br />
  And some when they are old;<br />
Some strangle with the hands of Lust,<br />
  Some with the hands of Gold:<br />
The kindest use a knife, because<br />
  The dead so soon grow cold.</p>
<p>Some love too little, some too long,<br />
  Some sell, and others buy;<br />
Some do the deed with many tears,<br />
  And some without a sigh:<br />
For each man kills the thing he loves,<br />
  Yet each man does not die.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on There&#8217;s justice and then there&#8217;s this&#8230; by Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 03:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree with most of what you say; child rape is more cruel and unusual than execution. However, I think there are some other things to consider. I'm not trying to defend the rapist (as there is no defense), but before I send someone to their death (or even a life sentence) I would want to know their motivation for the crime. According to Mike Lew in "Victims No Longer" (an authoritative book about the sexual abuse of boys) over 80% of child abusers were abused themselves as children and their abuse was never dealt with. If a boy was being sexually molested as a child and never was brought to healing from this, he then legally becomes an adult and begins to repeat what was done to him (in a pathological attempt to bring some kind of healing to himself); I would not want to punish him again with execution. I would, in effect, be punishing him for having been abused as a child. 

God designed children to be incredibly resilient to trauma IF they are given the proper love and counseling right after the trauma. The permanent damage and horrendous 'scaring' occurs when the childhood abuse is internalized (kept hidden or disassociated) by the child and is never dealt with. Another crime occurs when the victim is not secure in the love of his/her caregivers to expose the abuse and feels it has to be kept hidden. (I sadly know this from personal experience.) However, when a child rape is exposed, it is an opportunity for the child to get the help he/she needs to mitigate the trauma and an opportunity for the perpetrator to get the help he/she needs (while serving a prison sentence) if warranted. 

Child rape is so inhuman, so sick and so unnatural, it begs us to question what could possibly have caused one person to inflict this on another; certainly something extraordinary.  It is so right when you say that rape lacerates the soul, but fresh wounds are easier to heal and leave minimal scaring than those wounds that have festered unattended for many years. The long, unattended wounds (if the rapist actually possesses them) also deserve attention, not summary execution. I can't help but look at the rapist and say, "But for the grace of God, there go I."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can agree with most of what you say; child rape is more cruel and unusual than execution. However, I think there are some other things to consider. I&#8217;m not trying to defend the rapist (as there is no defense), but before I send someone to their death (or even a life sentence) I would want to know their motivation for the crime. According to Mike Lew in &#8220;Victims No Longer&#8221; (an authoritative book about the sexual abuse of boys) over 80% of child abusers were abused themselves as children and their abuse was never dealt with. If a boy was being sexually molested as a child and never was brought to healing from this, he then legally becomes an adult and begins to repeat what was done to him (in a pathological attempt to bring some kind of healing to himself); I would not want to punish him again with execution. I would, in effect, be punishing him for having been abused as a child. </p>
<p>God designed children to be incredibly resilient to trauma IF they are given the proper love and counseling right after the trauma. The permanent damage and horrendous &#8217;scaring&#8217; occurs when the childhood abuse is internalized (kept hidden or disassociated) by the child and is never dealt with. Another crime occurs when the victim is not secure in the love of his/her caregivers to expose the abuse and feels it has to be kept hidden. (I sadly know this from personal experience.) However, when a child rape is exposed, it is an opportunity for the child to get the help he/she needs to mitigate the trauma and an opportunity for the perpetrator to get the help he/she needs (while serving a prison sentence) if warranted. </p>
<p>Child rape is so inhuman, so sick and so unnatural, it begs us to question what could possibly have caused one person to inflict this on another; certainly something extraordinary.  It is so right when you say that rape lacerates the soul, but fresh wounds are easier to heal and leave minimal scaring than those wounds that have festered unattended for many years. The long, unattended wounds (if the rapist actually possesses them) also deserve attention, not summary execution. I can&#8217;t help but look at the rapist and say, &#8220;But for the grace of God, there go I.&#8221;</p>
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